>> > On the other hand, very small bubbles are sometimes added >> to the mix >> Air Entrainment. Pretty important for outdoor concrete in >> freezing climates. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_entrainment > Ah, that's it. I used to live in an area where that was important. > I don't > like being cold. > > Done since 1930! Some of those old guys were pretty smart. Done *again* since the late 1930's, when it was discovered by mistake. Done, it would appear, *originally* by the Romans, possibly by including blood or milk in the mix (!). Many Roman structures are concrete based. They considered it to be an unworthy material for display purposes and went to lengths to cover it with other materials. Air void analysis of concrete using a flatbed scanner. Goo discussion on what is required to make AE concrete frost resistant. MSc civil Thesis Mentions Roman air entrained concrete. http://www.cee.mtu.edu/~krpeters/air_voids/thesis2001.pdf The control of air in concrete This monolog mentions the Roman method (foodscraps -> soap) but portrays it as an accident - in all relevant concrete apparently. Knowing the Romans just a little his explanation is highly suspect. http://www.lmcc.com/news/spring2004/spring2004-08.asp -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist