Hi Philip, For moving bits around, you're totally right: can't beat a decent CPLD and the 9500 series is great. To be honest with you, and this is my own opinion, forget the 'scope options. I sense that a lot of people like hardware scopes (just like DMMs) and the same people favour computer-based logic analyzers! (Go figure). Regulatory approval is a b*tch everywhere. Can you circumvent CE by selling a kit or "hobbyist" version? -marc On 8/14/06, Philip Pemberton wrote: > trossin wrote: > > If you really want to go on the cheap (<$20) try my PIC based logic ana= lyzer. > > I use it for I2C and SPI. > > > > http://www.geocities.com/ted_rossin/Electronics/Pic/Pic.html#LogicAnaly= zer > > http://www.geocities.com/ted_rossin/Electronics/Pic/Pic.html#LogicAnaly= zer > > I've been doing something similar using a Xilinx XC9500XL CPLD (why? they= 're > =A31.20 in 1-off, and not too power hungry). All the triggering logic is > basically done - I'm just working on the host interface (CPLD interfaces = to a > PIC's PSP, then the PIC does protocol conversion to interface to a PC via= USB > or RS232) and the acquisition logic now. > > I've even got a (paper-only ATM) design for a combination of the logic > analysis engine and a simple 60MSPS oscilloscope. The eventual plan is to= do > two designs: > - One with no display at all, powered by a PIC18F4550. Full firmware > upgrade support, and maybe some support for gate array fusemap updates to= o (if > I get sufficiently bored). > - Another with a Nokia cellphone display, powered by an SX28AC. Simple= PC > link support, a Ramtron FRAM for data storage, and the aforementioned ana= logue > front end. > > I'd love to turn them both into saleable products, but CE (EMC directive = only > - IIRC the Low Voltage Directive only covers 50 to 400V) approvals testin= g is > pretty damned expensive, and that's the real show-stopper.. RoHS I can > probably handle, but EMC/LVD is going to be a real pig :( > > -- > Phil. | Kitsune: Acorn RiscPC SA202 64M+6G ViewFi= nder > philpem@dsl.pipex.com | Cheetah: Athlon64 3200+ A8VDeluxeV2 512M+= 100G > http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | Tiger: Toshiba SatPro4600 Celeron700 256M= +40G > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist