>OK I understand, but most of what I do uses 20 pin PICs >and below, so I'm not sure having a board with a 44 pin >device fixed to it is going to be of much use to me. >I think I'll just go for the version with the LPC demo >board, again. But you could always use the F917 as your development unit while debugging, and then transfer the code to the relevant chip once sorted. ISTR there is an app note about doing that using the F877 as the debug chip for F84 and similar family members. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist