My assessment of why the problem occurred could well be wrong. Perhaps if I describe it a better explanation can be found. The vehicle in question was a 1996 Volvo 850R high boost turbo that I purchased new. The tires were 17" low profile, and I don't recall the brand name that was installed as the OEM. In normal city traffic, AM radio reception was fine, as it was stop and go traffic with lots of application of the brakes and never hitting a very high speed. When cruising along the interstate I noticed the background noise would increase slowly, over the space of a few minutes. The background noise could best be described as broadband hash, no discernible tonal frequency to it. It was strong enough to cover up stations that were at a moderate distance. I would guess something like 20 dB desensitization but I did not make formal desense measurements. One of my thoughts was alternator noise, so to test that I put the transmission into neutral and turned the engine off and coasted down the interstate at 60 MPH for a brief distance. No change in the noise level. Another test for alternator-related noise I conducted was to put the transmission into neutral and vary the engine RPM to see if the noise level or sound varied with the RPM. I could detect no change. Turning the headlights on/off and other accessories on/off made no difference. When driving on wet pavement, no noise. This was only a dry pavement issue. On many trips (I was working in Northern NJ on a long term consulting contract at the time, so I was driving from the DC area to NJ several times a month) I would go from rain to clear skies and the noise always acted the same -- it would start to build up as the road and the car dried out. Or, in the other direction, it would quickly cease when the rain started or I drove onto wet pavement. Touching the brake pedal cleared the noise up for a few minutes, but it would gradually build back up again until I touched the brake pedal again or it rained or I ran into wet pavement. I found that spraying the tires with the cling-free did greatly reduce the noise level for a day or two and then it returned. With absolutely no other changes in the automobile conditions, I had all four tires replaced when the tread had worn down. The new tires were a different make than the OEM tires. With the new tires the noise had vanished and never returned. During the time the Volvo had the original tires, I had them rotated a couple times so they had been removed and reinstalled on different wheels. No change in the noise level. The only explanation that I could come up with that matched my observations was the the car body was being electrostatically charged, and the noise was caused by discharges across small gaps and that the original tires had better insulating properties than the replacements so that the static charge did not have a chance to build up to the level that it would produce noise, and that the wheel bearings were acting as an insulator that was bridged when I touched the brake pedal. (I imagine the brake pads had copper woven into them. Or, they might have even been sintered metallic pads.) So there it is. This was 100% repeatable under the conditions I described. I no longer have the Volvo so I can't conduct new tests, but I have a very good recollection of the problem and the tests I made at the time to pin it down. Jack Olin Lathrop wrote: > Jack Smith wrote: > >> Not so. It's well known phenomenon called "wheel static" or tire >> static. I believe the actual insulating junction might be the front >> wheel bearings that ride on a thin film of grease and do not have >> metal-to-metal contact whilst the wheel is spinning. >> > > Hmm, sounds a bit implausible that significant static can be built up > accross a thin layer of grease with moving metal parts on both sides, but > maybe. However then you said: > > >> I observed this consistently for two years until the new tires were >> installed, >> > > Then why would new tires fix the problem if the static buildup is in the > bearing, not accross the tire insulating the chassis from the ground? > > > ****************************************************************** > Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC > consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist