I haven't followed the whole thread, but if one is looking for OBD II cables, here one source: http://www.obd2cables.com/products/ that I have used. Neil, was that PWM you were trying to tell us? Harley IIRC there are 3 protocol standards, all called OBD2, and I suspect they will come with different connectors -- there's OBD2 ISO, OBD2 VPW, and OBD2 ??? (the name of this last one escapes me right now, but stick around for a Eureka moment). Cheers, -Neil. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist