Post some photos of the contactor somewhere and maybe I can help. Gus On 2006-Aug 09, at 09:06hrs AM, Martin K wrote: I have a problem with a contactor (relay) dropping out in an industrial control system. The contactors have 24VAC coils. I have hooked an oscilloscope to the 24V line and it appears to not have an issue with sagging, but it's hard to tell even on an oscilloscope when the event could be happening for just a few mS. Is it common for contactors to wear out in a method that prevents them from staying on, or should I be looking closer at the circuit that controls the coil? The contactor is supposed to be latched with another smaller relay that is fed by a momentary switch. After several attempts at getting it to stay on, it will eventually stay on for an extended amount of time (presumably when something warms up?) and perhaps drop out at an inopportune moment. I know I haven't provided a lot of info but hopefully someone has had a similar issue - I don't have much experience with this. Thanks, Martin K -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist Gus S Calabrese Denver, CO 720 222 1309 303 908 7716 cell Please include and do not limit yourself to "spam2006". I allow everything with "spam2006" in the subject or text to pass my spam filters. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist