Bob, Here's a variation of Jack's suggestion. Use two power supplies, one for AC excitation the other for DC excitation. Isolate the DC supply from the inductor under test with an inductor you know doesn't saturate. The exact value of this isolation inductance is not important. Similarly, isolate the AC supply from the inductance under test with a large capacitor (one whose impedance is way smaller than the inductor's impedance). Finally, place a small valued resistor in series with the inductance under test. With this configuration, you can use an oscilloscope to measure the phase shift between the AC excitation voltage and (say) the inductor's voltage and back calculate the inductance. The accuracy of this configuration is limited to how accurately you can measure the resistor's value and how accurately you can measure the phase shift. If the phase shift is phi degrees, then the inductance is: L = R/(2piF)*tan(phi) You could also look at the relative amplitudes (e.g. the voltage across the resistor relative to the voltage across the inductor and the resistor), but I believe this is less accurate. Scott -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist