On Aug 7, 2006, at 8:13 AM, Bob Axtell wrote: > The 10F200 will be hard to ICSP because every pin is needed for > ICSP, and you'll have to disconnect stuff in order to get it to work You can put the 10F on your board, do the ICSP, and then mount the other components. (I wouldn't want to do it OFTEN, mind you, but it should work for hobby projects.) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist