>Thanks all of you for the answer. So generally speaking better to use ICSP Yes >and my shaking hands to put it into its place :-) I have to rethink the >whole and have to go back to the library :-) For fitting SMD parts to a PCB without using one of the little vacuum pickup tools, look for a pair of normally closed ("crossover") tweezers. If you attempt to use the normal style, your fingers will twist the tips and the component will go flying where you will not find it, but the crossover ones hold the component without effort on your part. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist