Thanks all of you for the answer. So generally speaking better to use ICSP
and my shaking hands to put it into its place :-) I have to rethink the
whole and have to go back to the library :-)

Anyway, the matter of fact the 10F200 is more than enough for this module
(currently using only the half of the program memory space of it) and I just
thought I could make just a bit bigger PCB so that the few resistors and
capacitors around it fits perfectly but no more.

Sorry for the stupidity of me but I am coming from the computer programmer
field -- ok, as a low level programmer but it is still...

Thanks very much again!
Tamas



On 07/08/06, Jinx <joecolquitt@clear.net.nz> wrote:
>
> > There is no socket or whatever, so how do you program
> > it without ICSP?
>
> I've had success using a PCB mounted on a 40-pin DIP
> socket (which goes into the Picstart Plus ZIF) and holding
> the chip down with a spring. Fairly easy and cheap to make.
> The pads needed are the 5 for ISCP (0V, 5V, MCLR, Data,
> Clock). An outline of plastic centres the chip. The spring is
> an extension type, the sort you'd find in a disposable lighter.
> Fixed to the PCB at one end of the chip, it's pulled tight and
> hooked at the other end of the chip. A piece of 2mm plastic
> sheet is between the spring and the chip. Sounds primitive
> but it works OK. I've used it on SMT 628s, but not yet
> on SMT 10F200s. I see no reason why it shouldn't work
> with those too (maybe finding that out sooner rather than
> later)
>
> The other option is to have pads on your target PCB and
> program with ICSP using pogo pins. Before I got some of
> the proper ones, I used spring-loaded pins from the spares
> box. They were meant for holding watch straps but were a
> pretty good substitute for pogo pins. Worked alright
>
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