On Monday 07 August 2006 03:38, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am not sure if my prevoius message on this went through as I forgot to
> put the [PIC] tag in the subject so here we go again:
>
> Is anybody has experience on SMD sized PICs used as a hobbyist / small
> production? Couple of questions pop into my mind:
>
> - There is no socket or whatever, so how do you program it without ICSP?

I pre-program using a small SSOP socket adapter I bought for $50-60 IIRC.  But 
my boards are also setup for ICSP.  Due to space constraints, this however 
means tack-soldering a few wires to pads around the board, so I use ICSP is 
just for changes.


> - I could not find any info on the program memory types, so are they OTP or
> Flash or anything else?

Flash.


> - What tool do you recommend for dealing with SMD stuff (small production
> as 10 maybe 15 a month with 5-10 parts on the board so I would need a bit
> cheaper ones no matter if it takes more time or more expensive to build
> with)

Soldering tool?  I use a generic Weller soldering iron with a very small tip, 
and some wick to remove the excess.  Works pretty well, even if I do say so 
myself.


> - Is there any place in Ireland or UK where I have a chance to buy
> copper-clad boards that are not as thick (the standard is 1.6mm I think and
> I was thinking of having as thin as possible as the size will be really
> small -- the lighter is better

IIRC Olimex will do 1/32" board.  You do the math to metric :-)

Cheers,
-Neil.


>
> Thanks
> Tamas
>
>
>
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