Tamas Rudnai wrote : > There is no socket or whatever, so how do you program > it without ICSP? You don't. Why not just use ICSP ? > I could not find any info on the program memory types, > so are they OTP or Flash or anything else? Same as the DIPs. Where on earth did you look !? It should be perfectly clear from the Microchip web site. > What tool do you recommend for dealing with SMD stuff.. This isn't PIC specific, so I'll pass on that one... > Is there any place in Ireland or UK where I have a chance > to buy copper-clad boards that are not as thick (the standard > is 1.6mm I think and I was thinking of having as thin as possible > as the size will be really small -- the lighter is better I happen to have a few sheets of 0.20, 0.25, 0.50 and 0.80 mm double sided FR4 laminate. Size 8"x12". The thinner are not *that* heavy, and I could easily ship from Sweden in a few days. You could contact me directly on jan-erik-dot-soderholm-at-telia-dot-com if you're interested. Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist