Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am not sure if my prevoius message on this went through as I forgot to put
> the [PIC] tag in the subject so here we go again:
>
> Is anybody has experience on SMD sized PICs used as a hobbyist / small
> production? Couple of questions pop into my mind:
>   
Yes. We all have.
> - There is no socket or whatever, so how do you program it without ICSP?
>   
That's all ya got, UNLESS you purchase an adapter from www.emulation.com 
. Expect to pay $80
USD or more for an adaptor for, say, a TSSOP20.
> - I could not find any info on the program memory types, so are they OTP or
> Flash or anything else?
>   
Almost ALL new devices are flash only. That means you can program over 
and over.
> - What tool do you recommend for dealing with SMD stuff (small production as
> 10 maybe 15 a month with 5-10 parts on the board so I would need a bit
> cheaper ones no matter if it takes more time or more expensive to build
> with)
>   
If you get no smaller than SOIC, small-tipped irons work pretty well, 
unless you are a real klutz. Otherwise
you will need a hot-air soldering station. Unfortunately, these are not 
cheap.
> - Is there any place in Ireland or UK where I have a chance to buy
> copper-clad boards that are not as thick (the standard is 1.6mm I think and
> I was thinking of having as thin as possible as the size will be really
> small -- the lighter is better
>   
I don't know about the UK, but I can get two-sided PCBs made as small as 
0.022" here in the colonies.

--Bob

> Thanks
> Tamas
>
>
>
>   

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