Came across this design, even better than the ON Semi that still requires a= transformer. = http://www.supertex.com/pdf/datasheets/SR08x.pdf = You can get a regulated 3.3V or 5V @60mA, plus an adjustable 9-50VDC 100= mA(adjustable using a divider network to a feedback pin) output. Downside = is its only 55% efficient, but for the size its not bad. And I think...is = a bit better than just the LC type supplies, not as cheap but perhaps more = robust. = Anyone care to comment...good and bad on this app note? = My only issue is I need 5V and 3.3V so looks like the 9V gets dropped usi= ng either an LDO or small switcher. I need 50mA at 3.3V, and 30mA at 5V = -Al = --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates= starting at 1=A2/min. -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist