On 2006-Aug 06, at 03:44hrs AM, Vitaliy wrote: James Newtons Massmind wrote: > Another interesting thing is that sustainability = cheap. If you think > about > it, the bulk of the cost of just about anything is the energy used > to make > it. Think about a new car: You can buy a H2 or a Prius... Or an old > Civic. > The new cars are going to require that someone dig up ore, smelt it, > transport it to the factory, cast, weld, form it, assemble and then > transport the finished car to me. The old civic is already here. Alternatively, you can melt a couple of old Civics to make an H2. This way, you don't need to worry about digging up the ore. > Compare the > cost of that new hybrid with the cost /difference/ between the gas > my old > civic will use compared to the new hybrid. [...] I remember a while back one of the presenters at the local SAE chapter meeting mentioned that storing the braking energy as compressed air achieves up to 70% efficiency, compared to only 20% for batteries. I do not recall the reason why hybrids are still using batteries. Safety? Difficult to achieve smooth acceleration? ^ Fear of a technology looking stupid if it does not work in the field. AGSC ^ Best regards, Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist Gus S Calabrese Denver, CO 720 222 1309 303 908 7716 cell Please include and do not limit yourself to "spam2006". I allow everything with "spam2006" in the subject or text to pass my spam filters. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist