On 2006-Aug 05, at 11:11hrs AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:

Gus S Calabrese wrote:

>> Is there any other system? It's always "the mob" that rules;  
>> either it's
>> yours, or it's theirs... You just don't want it to be theirs.

> There are other systems  and they are better than democracy.

Like which ones?

> Just verrry hard to implement.

Could that be because they don't work?
Are you saying democracy works ?    I say it is terribly flawed, full  
of lies and does not work.
Of course it depends on your definition of democracy.   And which  
governments you include as
democracies.  Was Germany 1940 a democracy in your opinion ?

> I do not want their mob to rule nor do I want mine to rule. I am  
> not wise
> enough to make choices for others.

It's not about choices, it's about (violent) power. /Somebody/ will  
use it.
Either you have enough on your own (the red button in your living  
room?) or
you have to get together with a few people to accumulate some power, so
that you can keep the others from using it against you. Those few  
people is
then a "mob" already...     <---- this paragraph is the belief system  
you base your life on ?

BTW, I don't think the weapon carrying laws have a big influence on  
that.
Hand gun violence is so last century :)  This is not about High Noon  
type
encounters. Violence has many forms, and carrying a gun doesn't help  
much
against most.  <---  Are you saying here that you have surrendered  
and are
awaiting orders from your betters ?

Don't forget that you're talking from a place that's nicely secured all
around by  "the mob". Just look around a bit, and you see plenty  
examples
how a mob without democracy can look like.

Hmmm I guess you refer to the middle east.  I appears to me that the  
USA "surrounds"
everyone else with their killer-good do-bees.  ( Ever watch romper  
room ? )


(From another message of yours)
> ^3^ Abolish voting for most things ( 98%)   Give representatives  
> decision
> making power over the remaining 2%.

Representatives become representatives how? Through voting? Chosen by  
the
"wise five"? :)  Well yes you are right.... I will eliminate the 2%

Gerhard

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