On 2006-Aug 05, at 02:16hrs AM, Tony Smith wrote: >> Subject: Re: [OT] a definite blood.boiler Wheeeeee ! >> >> The mob voted, you didn't, so you can't really complain! :) >> >> Tony > > Do you say that jokingly or do you believe the members of the > mob should rule ? Well, by definition, democracy is mob rule. The only way to stop mob rule is to out-vote the mob. ^1^ By not voting, you're a non-participant. ^2^ You can either abolish voting (a meritocracy, perhaps?), get political, stage a coup or sit about complaining ^3^. You could try preference voting, like Australia has (although we borrowed it from New Zealand). Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting. This gives you the chance to rank the candidates, rather than just picking one. The pleasure of putting people you don't like last on the bill... This is fun, getting the majority of votes doesn't mean you win, like in the USA, for example. Say you have 4 candidates, one gets 40%, the others 20% each. Landslide win! Well, not quite. You need 51% of the total vote, 40% doesn't cut it. These elections are great when you have a candidate who polarises the electorate, you either love 'em or hate 'em. Australia had a fabulous example recently, one Pauline Hanson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Hanson) from Oxley, hencefore known as the Oxley Moron, and her 'One Nation' party. (Disclaimer - I encountered these people on a profesional basis, and to say I disliked them is an understatement). Anyhoo, Pauline went after the redneck vote, (wogs go home, flat tax, jail poofs etc). So while a large chuck (up to 40%) of the electorate placed her first on the ballot, everyone else placed her last. She would have won in the USA, despite over 60% of the voters absolutely loathing her. She was last seen heading off into the political distance complaining 'but I got the most votes, I don't understand it'. Australia has also compulsory voting, you get fined if you don't show up. ^4^ This has the added bonus where you can laugh at people who put 'I fish/shoot/play banjo and I vote' stickers on their vehicles. In the States, this is to encourage lazy fishing/shooting/banjoing people to get off their arses & vote. In Australia, it makes no difference, you need to convince the non-fish/shoot/banjo people to vote for you, and that doesn't happen much. Tony ^1^ Oppose mob rule is another way. Stop them every way you can from making decisions for you or others. ^2^ Voting does not make you a participant. Simple math demonstrates that your vote is worth less than a plugged EURO. ^3^ Abolish voting for most things ( 98%) Give representatives decision making power over the remaining 2%. ^4^ So one might show up, punch a chad and wobble on home, proud to have dodged a fine. AGSC -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist Gus S Calabrese Denver, CO 720 222 1309 303 908 7716 cell Please include and do not limit yourself to "spam2006". I allow everything with "spam2006" in the subject or text to pass my spam filters. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist