> The effects of preference voting are a bit subtle, and will > produce a result that the majority are happy with MMP, as in NZ, isn't preferential. An option offered when the country changed was STV, single transferrable vote, which some commentators argue would have been a far better choice than MMP http://www.elections.org.nz/study/history/history-mmp.html "The origins of electoral reform lay in the gradual breakdown of public trust and confidence in politicians, Parliament, and the simple certainties of the old two-party system" Many would agree that public distatste for politicians has scarcely changed. They still get up to the same old shenanigans and BS. I think no matter what "democratic" system you use, you'll still end up with the basically same kind of personalities in Parliament and they will endeavour to stay there by traditional means -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist