> > current "glorious" leader. ( PS I do not vote because > the system > > is "mob rule" ) > > AGSC > > Hmmmm. And how many people like you did it take to get our > current "glorious leader" elected? > > Even if your bastard doesn't win, make the other bastards > work for their victory! I understand your point, but there is another side to this issue: Who gets elected has less to do with what happens than how the public reacts after they get elected. Think about this logically. What motivation does the president have to do what they say they will do after the election? Well, you could say that they must have good ratings to get re-elected for a second term, but the public memory is not 4 years long (sad but true) so the president can do as wants for at least 3 years, then kiss up to the public for a year and get re-elected. In the case of GW, it was 9/11 and the subsequent war. He would NEVER have been re-elected had that not occurred, because his approval rating was low even then. Now, after re-election, why on earth would the President give a damn what the people think? They ONLY way they can get in trouble is by being impeached, and that would require a LEGAL breach that is clear and provable. I'm not going to argue that point right now... In general, only during the last bit of the first term is there any pressure on the president from voters. On the other hand, when people get pissed at the presidents political party, and start voting against members of the house, then you MAY get some pressure on the president from the head of the party. And that may, or may not, be effective pressure. The only real pressure comes from people physically demonstrating, going on strike, changing their buying habits and in other ways messing with the /personal/ interests of the person or his family. In this case, reducing oil use. Bush owns an "oil and gas production" concern, the Lone Star Trust. http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2003/N00008072_2003.pdf I mean, come on! His approval rating is the lowest in US history! Does he give a damn? Obviously not. Bush made more money last year from investments in treasury notes and royalties in the oil industry than he was paid in salary as President of the United States. Cheney made more last year than the other two politicians combined, thanks largely to investments from the enormous $36-million payout he received several years ago as the former CEO of Halliburton. That's the same Houston energy services company now enjoying billion-dollar federal contracts in Iraq but also losing more than its share of employees deployed there during the recent surge of violence. http://www.pathtofreedom.com is the only answer now. --- James. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist