Mike Hagen wrote:
> Bob,
>
> About programming, Yes, .1" spacing fits the cheap Molex connectors too.
> Use an un-soldered header just pushed into pads that are tight.
> Those pins are square, so they push and stay in a 0.034-0.036" hole fine
> for programming.
>
> I use a smaller programming connector because my boards are usually
> tiny.  If you make the pads on the PCB tight, no expensive pogos are
> needed.  It is less than 0.5" x 0.2".  Molex from Digikey I think?
> Fixturing up pogos and the $3-5 each for them is great for high
> production, but a lot harder for small production. 
>   
Yes, I use a 2mm-center array for smaller PCBs.
> About PicStart+,  mine are '96 versions with the flash mod installed, I
> have never had a failure.
> I have not heard of them being unreliable.  I have been using them for
> 10 years now, what failed on yours?
> Several hundred Pic of all sorts programmed.  Maybe I don't use them
> enough?  I have never tried hooking them to programming on a board.
> Always put the Pic into them, so I don't see how they could pop?
> Microchip may fix them for free, they replaced my ICD-2 for free?
>
>   
Maybe I am just clumsy..?

> Other programmer seem always to have connection problem, or drivers
> needed.  Over the years, that has been a major topic on the Pic
> Websites.
> I wasted about a $1K on Parallax programmer and emulator.  Will never by
> their stuff again.  Never any support.
>
> I bet the device list on the PicStart is the best too, since it is
> updated with each MPLAB?
>
> I have been Picing since the first ones came out and on this list for
> years, never seen any PicStart+ threads show up?
>
> Stange news to me!
>   
I always have the strange, unusual ones.

--Bob

>  
> Mike Hagen
> Hagen Engineering
> Crestline, Ca.
> Mike@HagenEng.com
> (909) 338-5521
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