That=92s just to program chips, if your going to buy one of those you would= be far better spending your money on an ICD2 from microchip instead, as that allows you to debug chips in-circuit. The official ICD2 also supports USB, however the cheaper clones you can buy online (~=A330) typically only suppo= rt rs232. The cheapest place I found last weak for ICD2's in the UK was microchipdirect, does anyone know anyplace cheaper? Just my 2cent, Mat -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Youden Sent: 03 August 2006 23:00 To: piclist@mit.edu Subject: Re: [PIC] Getting started with PICs OK, I have just found this... http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=3DSS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=3D= 1406& dDocName=3Den010020&part=3DDV003001 It looks OK to me but I have a few questions. 1. Has anyone used this before, esecially the software? 2. The devboard looks purely like a programming board to me or is that just a bad photo. 3. It says that it only connects via RS232 which I ditched on my computer long ago, will this work with a USB to serial adaptor? Thanks. Richard -- = View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-PIC--Getting-started-with-PICs-tf2047764.html#a564149 0 Sent from the MicroControllers - PIC forum at Nabble.com. -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist