OK, I have just found this... http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en010020&part=DV003001 It looks OK to me but I have a few questions. 1. Has anyone used this before, esecially the software? 2. The devboard looks purely like a programming board to me or is that just a bad photo. 3. It says that it only connects via RS232 which I ditched on my computer long ago, will this work with a USB to serial adaptor? Thanks. Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-PIC--Getting-started-with-PICs-tf2047764.html#a5641490 Sent from the MicroControllers - PIC forum at Nabble.com. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist