Thanks for the replies. I think what the first reply said is correct. I have done all the state-flow stuff and schemtatic work (thats why I enjoyed all the work with Xilinx), what I need to learn is all the C based programming stuff. I got an old dev kit out today at work and it loaded a program to make a light flash. I could see where it loaded the variables for the output and managed to find the variable to change the frequency of the flashing but after that I was lost! Anyway thanks for the help. I will try and find something from Rapid and post what I find to see if it would be any good. Thanks, Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-PIC--Getting-started-with-PICs-tf2047764.html#a5641278 Sent from the MicroControllers - PIC forum at Nabble.com. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist