A bit of a follow up... The unit had the right fuses set (HS). The design for this circuit isn't new but the part (18F2520) and the layout are both new. The oscillator circuit is straight from the data sheet with 100 ohm series resistor (I've tried several values here). Before they had a similar design using a 16F which hasn't had these problems. I was under the impression that using series instead of parallel cut crystals by mistake would only change the frequency that it oscillated at, not whether it oscillated at all. Is that a bad assumption? However, I'm sure we have the right cut crystal because... I removed the crystal and ran a generator into the osc input, this worked and the code ran. Also osc2 was showing the signal coming back out like I would expect if the config was right. I put a 1M resistor across the crystal and the oscillator started working at the right frequency. If it works at all it is reliable, but ... this isn't a fix-all because a) I'm not sure *why* this helped except a guess that the resistor in the feedback path is helping the gate act like an amp (maybe someone here will know) and b) it only works on 90% of the units, but for my purposes it let me get on with the firmware. Anyway, I guess there are no specific questions but if anyone has anything to add or has any good ideas here I'd love to hear about it. Thanks! On 8/1/06, alan smith wrote: > > The other question to ask is....have they worked in the past? Or is this a > new design. Could be the crystal might be series cut instead of parallel > cut? Wrong caps? > > But I'd go with Jan-Erik....do you have the chip configured for the right > type of osc. > > Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > Marty Robertson wrote : > > > My company just got in a > > batch of boards with 18F2520's on them. > > They seem to work fine with the internal > > oscillator, but with the external oscillator there seems to > > be no output. I checked with a scope and it is not oscillating. > > What did you do to change the *config* of the PIC from > INTOSC to LF or HS crystal osccilator ? > > > The crystal is connected exactly as suggested in the > > datasheet. Where else can I look to find this problem? > > Again, what was changed in the *config* ? > > Regards, > Jan-Erik. > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist