> Try PICKit2. It is cheap and reliable. Does not > cover so many PIC but good enough to start with. ICD2 > is a better investment. Olin's programmer is also a > good choice. > > > The best buy for your money is Kenny Wong's "Full ICD2" from his shop in HK. He fully guarantees it to work exactly like the ICD2 but better. It also contains two 40P ZIF sockets to program anything the ICD2 can. I own two of his, the "Full ICD2" and the "Mini ICD2". The Full is only $79 USD plus a VERY reasonable $12 registered mail from HK, and it operates FULLY from the USB port. I can't tell the difference in any way except it is half price. The Mini operates from a DB9 serial port, MUCH slower than the USB. They are all over EBay. You won't be disappointed. --Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist