Hello, Sorry everyone, this is going to be a little long. First off, let me say that I have very little knowledge about networking. That said, I'm attempting to use the Microchip stack to send UDP packets to the internet. My hardware configuration is an ENC28J60 and several PCs connected to a LYNKSYS router/hub, the WAN side of the router connected to a cable modem. It appears to me from reading the documentation for the stack (AN833) that to send a UDP packet to the Internet, I need local and remote port numbers, IP address AND a MAC address. I know the ports and IP address; however, the MAC address is unknown. >From reading a few documents on the internet as primers (RFC 1180 included), I don't really know what to use for the MAC address. My experiments so far have shown that if I use the MAC address from the LAN side of the LYNKSYS router (IP 192.168.1.1), I can access the internet server. I can also use ARP with just the internet server's IP address to return a MAC (not the same as my LYNKSYS MAC), which also allows access to the server. So, several questions: 1. Is the MAC address returned with ARP the actual server, or is it a computer between the router and the server? 2. Which MAC should I use, and why? 3. How often should I use ARP to get a new address? I imagine that unless the internet breaks, the server computer is replaced or similar, that the MAC will remain the same. Should I just ARP once and store it in eeprom, or when the server stops talking for a period of time, or at every power cycle, or once/day...? What is "standard"? 4. Does using the MAC not associated with the router "bypass" or in anyway open me up to virus/hacking issues? 5.Is it "normal" to have to ARP for a MAC to send a UDP packet ( it appears to be required in the microchip stack)? In my limited past network forays, I used a class library that encapsulated all this, I just needed to send in the port numbers and the domain name (yes, I still need to figure out how to access a DNS server for IP resolution). Thanks for any help. Ken klumia@adelphia.net -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist