> > > Now don't be mean - let us *all* hear what you've been going through! :-) It's not that bad actually.. There's a couple motherboard items that need updated drivers, but it's grossly functional. My old dos orcad dosen't run on it (yet), but it has been workable on Dos 5.x - 6.22 W3.1, WFWG, W95, W98, W2k, WMe, and XP, as well as OS/2 so I suspect we'll find a way to make it play. The system is a bit slow, because of the motherboard driver issues. But I'm talking to you on it. I've not yet tried to install AVR studio on it, but that's today's project. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist