>>... In my 30+ years of designing products, I've NEVER seen a >>wallwart that delivered >> less than 7V (I'm sure they are there, but I've never seen >> any. > They exist, and they're becoming more common. I've got a few > odd-ball wall > warts, 2.5v, 3v, 4.5v that power dictaphones, walkmans, portable CD > players > etc, mainly stuff that used 2xAA batteries. Low amps, these usually > didn't > recharge the device. As a general but reasonably adhered to rule, unregulated supplies will have outputs up to around 40% above rated voltage on light loads and regulated supplies will have voltages about as specified. "Regulated" includes linear regulated supplies and switchers. The switchers MAY have much higher voltages on low load but tend to be less severe in variation than unregulated "iron cored" supplies. In your application, Bob's suggestion to quit while ahead and use another part is probably the best one. However: Depending on other factors it MAY be worthwhile using a switching power supply that meets your input spec BUT probably not. An iron transformer based unregulated supply more or less has to have its unloaded input rise to substantially higher than when loaded due to the 1.414 ratio between peak voltage and RMS voltage. The actual ratio will vary with diodes used, filter capacitors, spreading resistors (seldom seen), filter inductor(s) (nowadays seldom seen), transformer resistance and more. Even partial core saturation under heavy load (when designed 'to the limit') can increase voltage variation. (And technology-indistinguishable-from-magic-due-to-modern-rarity saturable inductor regulators can reduce variation to almost zero). In days of old where people were desperate to limit both voltage variation and cost an SCR preregulator was sometimes used, and a FET based system would nowadays be about as cheap. But it is most unlikely that you would want to use such a system. A simple and cheapish and moderately effective system would be the use of a simple series preregulator using a zener and, a pass transistor and another control transistor plus a very few glue parts. This can be cheap and reasonably effective. . Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist