ahhh..but step back a minute. YOU might think tihs is a really cool thing, but have you done any sort of marketing analysis? Consultants are hired often to design something form someone for a fixed fee. I've done some pretty wild off beat designs but been paid for it, and have no clue if they really were as good as they thought. Some were pretty flat out stupid, but....fine, here is the design...go for it. If there really is a market, then build prototypes and start showing them and see if anyone bites. Harder than it seems. In the states, getting into Costco or Sams Club is a major deal but easier if you have the contacts. BUT...like just about every retailer you will have to have a stock of 5K to 10K units availalbe to immidiate shipment. Thats an investment to make, considering they will not talk to you seriously unless you have that available. Staples is running a thing right now looking for new ideas....would if fit into that mold? So, want to give us any clues on what this is? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist