A good FREE spice simulator is LTSPICE (aka SWCAD-3) from Linear Technologies. It doesn't have a vast database of parts although it's not hard to add or modify existing parts. All you need is a text editor and component knowledge or it's spice directives. http://www.linear.com/company/software.jsp Have Fun! Sean. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist