> I spend a LOT of money on scratching posts and cats things, > and I even intentionally put bird feeders next to the windows. > > you're right, you can't "discipline" a cat. )-: Actually, you can, but only if you do it from around a corner were the cat can figure out that it is you doing it. I've trained out a few nasty behaviors with a good quality squirt gun hidden some distance away... If they figure out it's you and not the "hand of God" they just go poop in your shoes and call it even. --- James. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist