Good idea Ray. The customer becomes a reseller! :) John > I agree, > No matter what if you don't get what you agreed to > in a timely manner all rights have to > go back to you. NEVER NEVER compromise on this. > > I made the same mistake, sort of, when I learned how > by working with offshore > suppliers/manufactures I could supply a product to > the customer cheaper than if > he contracted directly with offshore manufactures. > This was Taiwan back in the late 80's > I'd figure I could offer the best design and > manufactured price so I > started to offer free use of my designs to tie up > manufacturing rights. > > However royalties or manufacturing rights, IF a > customer can't afford to pay you AT LEAST > reasonable fee for you help. Even the equal of what > would be paid to an employee, then > he can't afford to to invest in real production. He > is using you to attract investors for HIS company. > > IF he finds investors they will want to cut out any > extra cost. > Most investors never want to pay royalties because > it is too open ended. > > Also unless you are manufacturing, you will never > know what his sales are. > > I only found one company is good as their word about > royalties. Fisher Price Toys. > > I have never heard of and good outcome of this type > of agreement unless the company > HAS money and everything is in place and is > privately owned by the "hands on" owner. > > My 2 cents > Ray > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist