>> I try to design with E1 where possible :-). > Saves learning all that complicated colour-code stuff! You still have to learn at least black to blue for decade multipliers :-) And then there's silver and gold which you don't meet elsewhere. Most people don't know what a silver multiplier means :-). FWIW I was serious about designing with E1. If it can be 10K make it 10K If not, can it be 100K? If not, can it be 1K? After that make it what it must be, but still lean towards E1. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist