I recently used this CO2 sensor: Figaro TGS4161 www.figarosensor.com to detect when someone breathes on it. It worked well! I was able to tweak things to make it quite sensitive. I did: sensor -> sensor buffer opamp -> PIC A/D, and wrote some code to watch the flow of numbers and detect a fast-moving trend. I think they are around $40, the client bought them. Jesse Russell McMahon wrote: > I wish to build a Capnograph. > Don't know what that is? > I didn't either until yesterday - even though I wanted one. > It's an instrument to measure exhaled CO2 content. > Exhaled CO2 content is typically in the range 2% - 10.% > Y.CO2.M.V. > > Real ones cost real money. > Most straight forwards method is measuring absorption at about 4.2 - > 4.3 nm where CO2 has an absorption peak. > This usually involves producing light which includes this wavelength > and then filtering it with a suitable filter. These are commonly > enough avail;able due to their use in Automotive gas analysers, and, > not surprisingly, in Capnographs. Such filters are nastily > expensive - typically hundreds of dollars. This is a 'discretionary' > project and while such a cost is bearable it would be much better if a > cheaper solution was available. > > One possible solution is the use of a diffraction grating or possibly > a prism. > > Other people may have alternative innovative suggestions for > addressing the 4.2 nm line approach OR may have alternative methods. I > want a potentially "breath by breath" response and ideally electronic > logging so chemical means are unlikely to be useful. > > I can imagine a "colour wheel" approach where CO2 is absorbed on a > substrate causing eg colour change, read by a sensor and then > regenerated by eg heating, all on a rotating wheel, might provide a > viable real time solution. How one achieves such a colour or other > change I don't yet know. > > Pushing that a little further, exhaled air could be bubbled through a > solution causing transparency change and light occlusion and the > solution subsequently regenerated. Much messier than I would like, but > such "idea starters" may lead to other things. > > FWIW the End Tidal value (the CO2 level at the end of exhalation) is > an amazingly sensitive and valuable indicator for many medical > situations. ET value gives far faster response than Pulse Oximiter > blood oxygen readings to oxygenation changes (one breath versus a > minute plus), is a sadly accurate indicator of resuscitation prospects > and a good indicator of whether resuscitation is working (reading at > 20 minutes resus gives near certain indication of death/life > prospects). It's invaluable as an intubation indicator and monitor for > patients during critical transfers. > > > > > Russell McMahon > > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist