I have some charge data, will e-mail later tonight. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Pemberton" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: [EE]: Anyone got NiMH charge profile data? > Hi, > Has anyone here got a recorded charge profile from a NiMH battery? What > I'm > after is - in effect - a spreadsheet with three columns: > - Time > - Voltage > - Current (optional) > > Does anyone have anything like this kicking around their HDD? The battery > manufacturers seem to be quite happy to give out pretty pictures of their > charge profiles, but don't seem to publish actual numbers. > > I want to play around with charge termination detection algorithms for my > (half-done) NiMH charger, and I don't have any test data to feed into my > detection algorithms. I figure while I'm waiting for the parts for the > discharger circuitry to turn up (a DAC, a voltage reference and a few > op-amps), I might as well get some of the software algorithms tested and > tweaked for use on a PIC. > > What's bugging me is that the manufacturers are saying one thing (wait for > dV > to hit -5mV per cell) while all the books and websites I've been scanning > through are saying different things. One suggested "zero voltage delta" > (wait > for dV to get close to zero) and another suggested "inflection point > sensing". > The latter involved calculating the first or second-order derivative of > dV/dt > and looking for the point where the derivative crosses zero. Surely that > would > produce the same result as zero-delta sensing though? > > The main thing is that -dV is reputed to slightly overcharge the cells > (which > produces heat, which is bad) and 0dV allegedly stops that. But if you get > the > trip point wrong, you end up undercharging the cells, which is also bad. > > As far as preferences go, data for any cell manufacturer is fine, but > Sanyo > (or anyone who rebrands Sanyo cells - Kodak, Energizer or Duracell) or > another > name-brand (Uniross excepted) would be preferred. Same for cell count - > given > the number of cells in a pack, I can get the per-cell voltage back pretty > easily. > > Thanks. > -- > Phil. | Kitsune: Acorn RiscPC SA202 64M+6G > ViewFinder > philpem@dsl.pipex.com | Cheetah: Athlon64 3200+ A8VDeluxeV2 > 512M+100G > http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | Tiger: Toshiba SatPro4600 Celeron700 > 256M+40G > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist