On 6/27/06, James Newton, Host wrote: > I've come upon this interesting paragraph on piclist.com (don't I already > know what is written there? Well, no, in fact now that there is about 3GB of > text on the site, I find more and more often that I have no clue were stuff > came from. Rather fun actually!) and I was curious about the unanswered part > of it: How does one know how much voltage to put through the lamp to heat > the filament without producing light? > > "One feature of incandescent bulbs that you can exploit is that when off, an > incandescent filament is very low resistance- much lower than when it is > glowing. This allows lamps to be used to protect against short circuits. > Also, you can trickle a small (fractions of a milliamp) current through the > bulb- if there is current flow, the bulb is good, none, the bulb is burnt > out. This method can only tell you the health of the bulb when the bulb is > off. Make the current small enough not to light the bulb. The reduced > resistance of a cold bulb results in larger current draw when it is first > powered; called "in-rush current". The filament color temperature (Kelvin) > at which the lamp is designed to operate determines the inrush current. A > 300'K lamp will have an in rush current about the same as its operating > current, but a 2,500'K lamp will draw about 12 times the current when cold. > Most lamps will heat to normal current ratings in approximately 30-100 > milliseconds. The in rush current can be reduced by using a "keep alive" > voltage to pre-warm the filament while not producing light." > > So again, how do you know what the filament resistance / heat / current will > be given a steady voltage? I have some experience doing this in a 12V, 100W application. I think the most practical thing is to make a graph of steady state current vs voltage. Around the bulb turn-on voltage, the response (brightness/current) is *very* slow. It first appeared to be hysteresis, but further study showed the brightness to settle down with about a thirty second time constant. (This was meant for a closed-loop servo system, and it drove me nuts. If I did it again, it would be LEDs all the way.) Anyway, I guess there's a tradeoff between inrush and idle current. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- You think that it is a secret, but it never has been one. - fortune cookie -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist