Here in Argentina the costs are low too. For example: I have this board a customer developed himself and asked me to assembly. It has 53 components. 8 of these components are on one side of the board and are PTH (some LCD connectors, a pushbutton, buzzer, electrolytic capacitor, and 2 led at specific heights). On the other side of the board are the rest of the components, which are all SMD. Some are 0805 and 1206 resistors and or capacitors, a SOIC-28, some 1N4007, sot-23's and some MELF's). That board cost him to be assembled U$ 0.035 per part, based con qtys of more than 500 boards. There are price steps: 10 to 24 U$S 0.081 25 to 49 U$S 0.061 50 to 99 U$S 0.047 100 to 199 U$S 0.041 200 to 499 U$S 0.037 > 500 U$S 0.035 I also made the boards (500 units), which cost him U$ 1.95 in a normal production time of 15 days (it can be short, off course). The board is a double sided board measuring 5x8.6 cm. 200 boards would have cost him U$S 2.98. Regards, Mauricio Jancic Janso Desarrollos www.janso.com.ar info@janso.com.ar (54) 11-4542-3519 > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Newman > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:40 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Need a circuit assembler > > Neil, > > I have the advantage of years of offshore production experience. > While I am reluctant to manufacture in China because of > minimum labor/material/builds AND rip off of my designs > (happened with 4 chip motion outdoor lights went to 1 chip > back in the early 90's) I helped a lot of USA companies > manufacture in China. > > But my heart is in Thailand. > Friends/propriorty manufacturing. > Not as low cost as China but better engineering talent > Because of Thai law, BOI export companies can't sell local. > > The only real problem is that there is not too much local material. > I have to import from the rest of SE Asia. > But less than US$0.05/part is very possible and SMD is even > cheaper when they have equipment. > > BUT > most material suppliers require 1,000 pcs min. > So some day I will go back. > For the cost of 250 here I can get 1,000 there. > > Per part is just a guide line. > Real estimates require prep time per part. > Some are easy and some are not. > I have the sales but not the cash. > So I am trying to find local help. > Ray > > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:55:27 -0500, PicDude wrote: > > On Thursday 22 June 2006 21:18, Ray Newman wrote: > >> Doug, > >> What is the average going rate per part or per pin for > assembly down > >> there??? I am in upstate NY and it is almost impossible to find > >> anyone for small production/prototyping. And if I do, I > pay $0.10 to > >> $0.20 per part. And that is for thru hole. SMD is more. > >> Found individual who is not using his smd equipment too > much but he > >> wants twice as much. > >> > > > > Per part, regardless or numbers of pins on the part? > > > > > >> So I am always looking for individuals, that I can trust. > But maybe I > >> am too cheap. > >> > > > > I'm in the same boat, but it's not about being cheap, but > about being > > cost-competitive. My products are made in the USA, but I > still have > > to compete with foreign-made products. > > > > Cheers, > > -Neil. > > > > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist