I've known very talented designer from Microchip's bbs. I was very amazed of his high quailty responses and wrote him my thoughts and offered co-working through the net. So he responded back three pages long reply plus two pages of his resume. Those conversations hangs near my monitor. The weird side is he has no degree but i'm sure that he has much better than our profs. Here is right place to cite some from his replies... "I don't have a University degree. Actually, I never set foot in a University as a student, although I have worked on a few post-grad research projects as a collaborator, under invitation. Currently I work as a Electronics Design Engineer, although I don't have a EE degree, nor any other degree actually. The point here is that I lack the necessary academic credentials (those letters like MSEE, PhD, et cetera)... Medical electronics is as vast a field as any ee broad field. You have from relatively simple measurement and control circuitry (like neonatal thermo regulation using infrared imagery), to vital signals monitoring like oxymetry, EKG, EMG, EEG, pH, blood pressure, insulin monitoring, to clinic diagnostic equipment (like a myriad of sensors and analysis procedures applied to all areas of diagnostic medicine), to high-end imaging and state of the art visualization and processing (like computer graphics 3D realtime modelling and visualization from datasets derived from ultrasound, thermal, impedance, acidity, radiology, CAT and MRI data), to robotic manipulation for remote surgical procedures, to body-implanted intelligent sensors and actuators, to embedded drug dispensers for chronic treatment and pain control, to sensory and motor intelligent bionic prostetic devices that interface directly with neural tissue and muscle tissue for limb rehabilitation/substitution, to personal intelligent assistant devices that augment the capabilities of handicapped persons, to electronic safety devices for debilitating illnesses such as dementia, allzheimer, epilepsy, to cardiac implanted devices like pacemakers and artificial blood pumps, to digital hearing implants, to artificial sensors for personal safety like thermal damage warning for hansen disease patients, to name just a few areas." His no degreed abilities goes on and on...I'm still half of the way in contrast to him and i have degree but my experience is just like a sand on the earth... Anyway, although Albert Einstein wasnt an engineer did he get a degree before explaining "special relativity" phenomenon -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist