Quick comment as I'm about to grab an hour or so of sleep as I try to finish a project zzzzzz. .... If you are reading this with a page reader, search for "CUT TO THE CHASE" below here. AFAIR Professor Kay of ?Canterbury? University in NZ developed ultrasonic based navigation aids decades ago. He had both spectacle mounted devices and cane based AfAIR. I also think that Wormald Sensory Aids - subsequently Pulse Data, may have picked up the development. Google says they may now also trade as "Humanware". They have long ago specialised in aids for ther blind and you probably know of them. No obvious mention of navigation aids on their site www.pulsedata.com "Contact us" reveals a New Zealand base address (still) with links to other countries. Site searching on "cane" turns up a GPS add in for their BrailleNote unit. Their products page is equally unhelpful. Googling professor kay ultrasonic blind is more useful. CUT TO THE CHASE Professor Leslie Kay, ex Canterbury University in NZ Professor Kay's KASPA ultrasonic technology. http://www.rsnz.org/members/fellows/personal/16837.php KASPA = "Kay's Advanced Spatial Perception" Allows eg blind children to hit a thrown baseball with a bat www.batforblind.co.nz Huzzah! "The BAT 'K' Sonar-Cane' [[ what does a voice reader make of this line ? ]] :-) "The 'K' Sonar clipped to a standard long cane radiates harmless ultrasonic waves in a narrow beam to isonify objects in the path of a blind traveler. The sonar beam of the receiver collects the reflections - or echoes - from the objects in the pathway. These ultrasonic echoes are converted electronically into unique sound signatures representing the Euclidean "shape and size" of the objects. The blind person can recognize these and their location, making travel on foot more safe and easy. " And from http://www.batforblind.co.nz/specification.htm Which you should find a very interesting page. Listening to the echo sounds from the sensor is a unique experience often described by users as an 'intuitive' experience. This is mainly because the echo sounds vary in synchrony with motion of the sensor through natural body movement. They vary as the beam of radiated sound is caused to point at different objects. Conversely, when vision is lost and the beam of the sensor is moved around to learn of objects in the vicinity, the changing sounds indicate the presence of different objects at differing distances. This enables cognitive mapping of one's 'object space'. This alone is highly educational for young blind persons. User experience" http://www.batforblind.co.nz/testimonies.htm Includes: "Not only will you be able to locate objects, but you will also be able to determine after a little time of using the sonar, to detect textures of those objects. For example - a brick wall, a hedge, a metal light post, a door-way and even combinations of textures such as a wall with a hedge at one end. " And "Not only do I use it to get around, but I also have had many fun-filled hours of experimenting with different environments. For example: Walking in a field with several trees around and other things such as small boulders and vegetation. There was even a stream with a foot bridge over it. Walking down a crowded hall-way with people going in every direction possible and at different speeds. Boy, that really produced some rather interesting Doppler affects. Or working my way through a crowded lobby to get to the exit door. I use the 'K' Sonar to find the front door opening and boarding steps on the city bus. Or what about things left on the walk or on the ground or floor like backpacks. Or people sitting on the floor like at a busy college. I've also explored the front of buildings both at ground-level as well as examining around an entry way from side to side as well as overhead. Locating things like windows, signs above the door and such. " Should be a good start :-) History page alone is interesting http://www.batforblind.co.nz/history.htm Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist