Jim Robertson wrote: > but Olin has something along these lines Thanks, yes I do. It's called the RSLink (http://www.embedinc.com/products). It has a DB-9 connector on one end that connects to a PC COM port via a straight thru extension cable. On the Microcontroller side you connect it to 5V, ground, and the PIC UART RX and TX lines. It does the signal inversion and level conversion to RS-232. It would be easier and cheaper to use a PIC with a UART built in. The 16F648A has the same footprint, a hardware UART, more program memory, more RAM, a few other nice peripherals, and costs less than the 16F84. ****************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist