Rob Robson wrote: > "Gerhard Fiedler" wrote: >> Really? I mean, in a way that releasing more costs more and releasing less >> costs less (therefore creating a natural -- at least in the capitalist >> sense -- incentive to release less)? Do you have some examples where this >> happens? That would be interesting. > > Perhaps the most accessibly documented example of a company that has > historically chosen to pay fines and taxes rather than clean up its > emissions is Kodak. The reason follows your point exactly: for decades, it > has been cheaper for them to do so. I'm not talking about fines, I'm talking about an adequate price. In this case, which I don't know, it sounds as if the price (if there was one, but it doesn't sound like there was a defined price) was too cheap. Or the general public didn't think it was, then it really wasn't... (I know, it's not quite as simple as that, but almost. :) > My point is that relying purely on economic incentives and disincentives > was and is, in practice, insufficient to safeguard the public from > exposure to materials that are known to cause health problems. "Economic incentives" is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a fair and realistic price. The price would include the public cost to clean up and repair the damage and then some. I don't think this has been practiced anywhere. Public administrations and legal bodies like pork (that's what "economic incentives" often are) and hard regulations too much. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist