Yigit Turgut wrote: >> 3. Managers, not engineers, rule the world. > > what do they know without engineers ? An engineer who doesn't manage (at least him/herself) isn't worth much, usually. (The occasional "crazy genius" not withstanding :) This whole "silly manager" stereotype is just as silly as the portrayed manager, and liable to cause more harm than good. Possibly a result of most engineers never hearing much about proper managing -- at least not before they all of a sudden find themselves in the position of having to manage a team or a product :) It's usually managed engineering results that get to change anything, not the raw idea on a scrap of paper in the back of a drawer. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist