the crytals is the osc part. In order for the PIC to run it requires a clock. The crystal serves a the clock.You need to more on this http://techtrain.microchip.com/x14/ john --- Michael Wrock wrote: > > Thats what I've been trying to do, but I cant seem > to get it to work. I > looked at the circuit diagram for the pic > programmer, and I noticed that the > pic is wired into a quartz crystal. Is this just > part of the programming > process, or do I need to include it on my > breadboard? From what I've read > the 16f627 has a crystal like that in it. > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/-PIC-+16f627-8+beginner-t1714888.html#a4668834 > Sent from the MicroControllers - PIC forum at > Nabble.com. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist