Russell McMahon wrote: > > Yes, but this kind of pride and self confidence is usually > > called "Nazism". The pride of being superior to the inferior > > human races, the pride of being able to decide which > > human race is allowed to stay on the Earth and which is not. > > Not the pride that I was talking about. As you may well > imagine. He took a people who were downtrodden and who > had been financially bled to death by the undeniable excesses > of the WW1 reparations exacted by the victors, and gave > them back national pride, improved working conditions and > national identity in ways which would be largely acceptable > within the bounds of any number of modern democratic > societies. Perhaps you are right, Russell. You read many books. You are the King of [OT]. I don't read books that much now. Just both my grandfathers and all their brothers were killed during WW2 and one of my grandmothers died of hard work at that times. So, my opinion is a bit biased. I can imagine that the opinion of tenths of millions WW2 victims would also be biased, if they could express their opinion. They can't. So, perhaps we should be more careful with expressing our opinions? Please explain me one thing, I can't grasp. Why those masses of immigrants preferred USA refugee status to that "given back national pride" and improved national identity? Albert Einstein was among them in 1933 when Hitler came to power, if I'm not mistaken. Much of the refugee's property was abandoned making possible to "improve working conditions" for "financially bled to death". What "largely acceptable within the bounds of any number of modern democratic societies" Nazi period are you talking about? Please, specify it. In 1939 Dachau started. Hope you don't think this way would be largely acceptable. In 1933 refugees were getting out. They were not satisfying much with this kind of national pride, improved working conditions and national identity, why? > Not the pride that I was talking about. As you may well > imagine. There is no just one more pride. Once a nation accepts nazism, fascism or whatever this kind, there is no place for just one more pride for the nation. MS -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist