> /Everything/ started in reality, somewhen, somewhere... :) No, IMHO :-) Reality, as we usually use the term, is bounded. As far as we can tell, everything, as we commonly use the term, started outside reality. It's unreal! RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist