At 04:20 PM 5/27/2006 -0700, you wrote: >On May 27, 2006, at 3:46 PM, Olin Lathrop wrote: > >> but the book I got this from claims that this is > >> equivalent. > > > > That's nonsense. Think about it. How is a diode from the bottom > > of the > > relay to ground going to catch the solenoid current when the > > transistor > > turns off? > >It seemed odd to me certainly. My thought was that it was something >too clever for my newbie level of understanding to make sense of, so >I just transcribed it literally from the book. The collector junction was avalanching and absorbing perhaps half of the total energy stored in the coil. >Thanks again for helping me through this, You can swap out the diode, in the current position, for a TVS or beefy zener, and the circuit will work as-is. For example, a 1.5KE62A (JEDEC 1N6290A) . The solenoid will drop out faster than if you used a (cheaper) 1N400x across the coil. If you don't care about the drop-out time, the 1N400x is easier on both the transistor and the diode. >Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com ->>Test equipment, parts OLED displys http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspeff -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist