Alan B. Pearce wrote: > The only way around this is to bring the first transistor collector out > separately, and supply it from a voltage higher than the second transistor > Vbe(sat) plus first transistor Vce(sat). This then means the second > transistor Vce(sat) is not dependant on any characteristics of its own > Vbe(sat) or the first transistor Vce(sat). Which probably wouldn't then be a Darlington anymore -- just a two-stage amplifier/switcher. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist