Russell McMahon wrote: > But it as often as not has no metaphor which is grounded in reality as > we know it. Most of mathematics -- the language in which most physical theories are expressed -- has no metaphor that is grounded in reality as we know it (with our senses). Look at real numbers. We use them every day, but we just use them, glancing over the finer details. It's no surprise that it took several thousand years from the first abstractions about numeric systems to a more consistent definition of real numbers. Which probably most of us are not completely familiar with. And being familiar enough with their most common applications, one doesn't have to understand the nitty gritty of number theory or set theory to use them successfully. But that doesn't mean that this doesn't exist, or that the concept of real numbers would be "grounded in reality as we know it". It's just easier to not look at the "irreal" quality when using them than with other systems :) Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist