>> I used the first 2 NOR gates to build a simple monostable >> that turned on or off a low frequency oscillator made up >> by the 3rd and 4th NOR gates. Such circuits are famously susceptible to various outside influences and the BEAM robotics folk attribute near magic (living-system like) properties to very similar circuits. For instance, if you're flashing an LED at the output, the amount of light shining ON the LED can change the behavior of the circuit (the BEAM magic consists of maximizing these outside influences...) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist