> I don't understand how the wisp628 is able to program a 12F675 .... Officially it isn't, at least not without the addition of the extra ('dongle') circuit. In practice the Vdd-before-Vpp sequence will work, unless the /MCLR pin is configured as input. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist